What's up with the N&B hate? - Page 2

Skill · #16 07-17-2011, 01:09 PM

The game itself was ace, building the vehicles taking on the challanges of the levels it was really good anyone with a 360 that likes to play games that aren't just FPS would enjoy it.

The problem is having Banjo and Kazooie in the game as well as the cast of BK and BT really didn't do the game any favours at all. First the redesign of all the characters doesn't really look that good and hurts the original look and feel of the more cartoon -fun style of BK/BT.

It also hurt Rare in sales as I think people didn't understand what the game was younger gamers that were looking for a Jak and Dexter or R&C style game for the 360 would normally have picked up BK but the way it was shown and idea behind the game ment that they wouldn't pick it up. On the other hand the teen gamers that would enjoy the vehicle building and challange won't buy it because of it having BK in it and would be consided lame for the teen 360 audience.

If the game was released as it was but set in the JFG universe I think all round the game would have felt better and sold better.

3D Platformers in general seem to be something thats really only in the past unless you count the beautiful Mario Galaxy.

Lockdown738 · #17 07-17-2011, 02:42 PM

I agree that having BK in a game would be considered 'lame' for the typical teenage audience, and that it hurt Rare in sales because people didn't understand the original games for the N64 because they were released so long ago, and were part of an entirely different genre. I find that Nuts & Bolts is a good game with a great concept, but I don't feel that it works as a BK game. If it was a different game with different characters (and even levels), it would have worked perfectly.

Addict · #18 07-17-2011, 05:08 PM

Banjoland was probably my least favourite map, it didn't have any fun challenges.

GameMasterGuy · #19 07-17-2011, 05:09 PM

The Clanker one was memorable...

Addict · #20 07-17-2011, 07:01 PM

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The Clanker one was memorable...

What was it? I forget.

Lockdown738 · #21 07-17-2011, 08:34 PM

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Banjoland was probably my least favourite map, it didn't have any fun challenges.

Agreed. Also, I wish it was more open ended, and shaped more like an actual museum.

GameMasterGuy · #22 07-17-2011, 10:06 PM

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What was it? I forget.

Protecting his eyes from Gruntbots?

MexiConk · #23 07-18-2011, 12:39 AM

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The Clanker one was memorable...

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What was it? I forget.

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Protecting his eyes from Gruntbots?

u don c wat he did thar?

Addict · #24 07-18-2011, 12:39 AM

he dun c wut i did thar :C

GameMasterGuy · #25 07-18-2011, 01:19 AM

I actually did when he first posted it, I was just to lazy to point it out.

Lockdown738 · #26 07-21-2011, 09:19 PM

I's a really good game, however there are times I wished it was a platformer.

MW4560 · #27 07-22-2011, 02:17 AM

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I's a really good game, however there are times I wished it was a platformer.

But if you think about it, it is. I mean, what do you do in Banjo-Kazooie? You fly, you attack stuff, you collect items, you go from one platform to another, etc. In Nuts & Bolts, you're doing basically the same thing, but you're doing it with the assistance of vehicles. For example, the items in the game are representative of many of Kazooie's powers in the first game. Look at the Egg Gun, it's basically a representation of Kazooie's egg firing power. Then, look at something like Springs which let you bounce- yet again, something Kazooie could do.

Sure, many challenges in the game revolve around racing and all that, but at its core, N&B is a platformer. At least, that's what it feels like to me.

Addict · #28 07-22-2011, 02:19 AM

Then I understand why you like it mate, but to us, at least me and, obviously, Lockdown, it doesn't feel like a platformer.

MW4560 · #29 07-22-2011, 02:21 AM

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Then I understand why you like it mate, but to us, at least me and, obviously, Lockdown, it doesn't feel like a platformer.

Well you're totally entitled to your opinion. I can understand why someone might not like it, or at least like it as a B-K game. It's not for everyone. I just think it gets too much undeserved hatred for the most part, that's all.

Addict · #30 07-22-2011, 02:27 AM

I made a more in-depth explenation to why I hate it earlier in this topic, it has nothing to do with not being a platformer//not being like the other Banjo games. I'm just saying I totally understand how someone like Lockdown thinks.